Grant-Kerr Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 After many years of planning and research into this I have FINALLY started on my pet project of U.P Coal Turbine 80. It is in 1:32 Scale and two parts are scratch built and the 3rd part a bash from a MTH PA. I took a leaf out of someones post a while ago and started with the tender as the first stage of the build. So far after about 20 hrs of messing about this is as far as I have got with it. I might add here that the centipede section and front truck I managed to get from Ray but in his own words the truck is unobtainable and he was keeping the one he sent me as a spare, until i told him what was going on. Many thanks Ray. So a start has begun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman4449 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Really looking forward to seeing this project move forward! Very glad to help on the front truck (MTH is currently sold out of them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-Kerr Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 Today being Labour day here in Victoria, I thought I would do a bit on this today. Inserts behind the ladders and plan out ,drill the portholes, and then fit the two doors. They say the devil is in the detail and I am a little stumped with how to make vents. In particular, these ones Any one have any idea's on how to do this? The photo is to scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-Kerr Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Got a little bored today so did a bit of painting Also went to the local hobby shop and purchased a sheet of 5 thou. brass . Going to have a go at the louvres with that. In the meantime it's on to the roof line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 UP Coal Turbine #80... I once thought about making one in 1:29 using a USA PA and Big Boy tender....That is until I was quoted $900.00 for the USA Trains Big Boy tender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B44 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 For the vents you might try some thin brass and a small chisel to punch them out. Worked for me on some larger ones. Not the best picture of my 2906 build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-Kerr Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 On 3/15/2018 at 6:53 PM, Chuck said: UP Coal Turbine #80... I once thought about making one in 1:29 using a USA PA and Big Boy tender....That is until I was quoted $900.00 for the USA Trains Big Boy tender 2 hours ago, Jerry B44 said: For the vents you might try some thin brass and a small chisel to punch them out. Worked for me on some larger ones. Not the best picture of my 2906 build. Odd you should mention 1:29 scale as I almost did just that when USA brought out the P.A. Even draw up the plans for it in that scale and borrowed a P.A. from the hobby shop I used to frequent in another life. Then I went to the darkside (1:32) with the promise of cookies, So it all got shelved until recently. Jerry Had a feeling you might have a suggestion and it is exactly what I was beginning to think may work and now seeing your photo , confirms it. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrown7713 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Here is how I made my grill pattern for a mold . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrown7713 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I should have explained this method in more detail. You can approach this project in two ways. As you see in the above picture, the vanes are just small styrene from the hobby shop, you will have to determine what size. If you are not making more than one or two, than just use this method and the vanes are more realistic, as there are spaces between the vanes, but I have to make many, so I made a mold and to make the pattern, I filled in between the vanes with clay for the making of the mold. You can't really tell, with this method, because when looking at it from the front, above level, it looks just like the ones with air between the vanes. To make the jig for this, I drew a full scale drawing in my cad program, Turbocad to get the proper measurements of the jig and cut them on a mill. If properly drawn, the vanes will be in the proper position in the grill and then used CA to glue. Worked for me. Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B44 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Bryan Smith, in Utah, did a UP turbine build years ago. He was a big guy into big engines. Might look at the this article on MLS. http://forums.mylargescale.com/15-model-making/12883-union-pacific-big-blow-gtel8500-back-work.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-Kerr Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Rob. Your idea has merit and I will have a go at it if the other way does not work. I hope it does though as the panel is a nightmare as you can see from the original photo and to scale a 5 thou thick piece of brass sheet would be perfect, if it works that is. Still I have to try though as the tender with the louvers is a noticeable feature. Jerry. I am familiar with Bryans work and did discuss with him along time ago about U.P 80 and he was very interested. I was only thinking about him the other day and wondering what happened to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwy Nick Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I love following the builds that you talented guys do. LiG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-Kerr Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Started on the roof line and it is more complicated than I first thought. So did it like a layer cake. At the moment it is drop in to allow for painting and the like. The piece of clear is to give me an idea of the hatch cover. It looks kind of bare without the handrails but will start on them in the next couple of days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-Kerr Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 Been busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-Kerr Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 Hatch Cover and Hand rails done except for the very front ones at the top, and the reason for that is some minor detail parts have to be done where they mount to. Also, the wire I used is music wire and it is as hard as hell, (Wrecked a quality hacksaw blade in 2 cuts) and tough to bend also. We learn I guess. Will get some brass wire later in the week to make the front rails. So... here is where I am at............. Now it is back to the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grant-Kerr Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 The opening for the screw drive I made from 10 separate pieces. A little bit of filler is required at the edges and that will be done. I have been using a very fine Auto finishing filler elsewhere on this but I am not happy with it. Seems to shrink a little to much when it dries. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrown7713 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I use epoxy resin and then mix with micro balloons making a peanut butter like consistancy. No shrinkage with epoxy. Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-Kerr Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 moving along front top hand rails and vents. The vents I made from buttons and ground them near flat on the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B44 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Looking slick. Neat idea on the buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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