The G Gauge smokers are around 4 ohm...maybe 4.6 max. I'll bet that it's too much of a load for the QSI electronics which means they're not as efficient as the MTH PS2 boards are. 6 amps draw for smoke...WOW!!
That's what I mean is I don't understand why in 2007 they didn't offer the F-7 A-A sets both powered..unless maybe they ran out of slave boards at the time??
So a A-A set cost $679.99 and you only ended up with 1 powered unit...but they were selling F-3 A-A sets both powered for only $20.00 more??
Sometimes I wonder about MTH as the 2010 catalog shows the F-7's only being offered as one unit being powered like this..
These are the Union Pacific F-7's...
70-2090-1 ProtoSound 2.0 A-Unit $429.95
70-2090-3 Non-Powered B Unit $199.95
70-2090-4 Non-Powered A Unit $249.95
It's the same pricing for all 5 F-7 paint schemes being GN, UP, SF, M&M and SP.
But the F-3's were listed as A-A sets with both A units being powered like the Western Pacific F-3 Diesel A-A Set (4 motors) 70-2012-1 w/ Protosound 2 for $699.95
The 2007 catalog is when the F-7's first shown in CN, NP, SF & CNW paint. Listed as F-7 A-A sets (4 motors) at a price of $699.95
I had the 70-2043-1 SF Yellow Bonnet F-7 A-A Set and it indeed had both A units powered.
Now the 2013 catalog makes vague reference to 2 motors in each A unit. It'll be interesting to see what actually gets produced!
Oh I sure will. This is the second NW2 that I've converted to PS2. The first was a PRR version I did a few years back and then sold to Robert Kubasko somewhere out in Pennsylvania. Even fit dual USA fan driven smoke units in the shell along with all electronics & a 3" speaker in the fuel tank. Operating ProtoCouplers installed too...it wouldn't be a switcher without them
At one time I owned some Great Trains F40PH's that had NWSL trucks under them. From what I can remember they had what looked like aluminum wheels, sorta like what Lionel uses. I traded them to my dear departed friend The_Other_Ray years ago for something
WOW! With gearing like that I bet those K-Line loco's haul ass??!! Joe, did you happen to get the numbers off the motor while you were inside the drive??
I've been eyeing up Marklin track for my indoor layout as it's more in-scale to 1:32 as I believe that it's code 200??
But what type is it? I mean I see on eBay what looks and is described as extruded solid stainless steel construction but then the next listing describes it as being hollow or made like Lionel tubular track? Marklins' website isn't much help but does show quite an assortment of switches like straight, curved, slip, 3-way, pre-made crossover etc.
That's good to hear that they will power a smoke unit! What's odd is after a year or so of all the hoopla announcing the pulsed smoke there really isn't much to show them in action on You Tube or anywhere online come to think about it.
enginear joe,
At one time QSI announced on their website that the Quantum Magnums (and maybe Titans?) would be able to work on DC power, DCC, DCS & TMCC...Guess that didn't happen!
It's been over a year since QSI introduced the Titan decoders. They were advertised as having the ability to power a smoke unit in a steam engine with in-sync with driver revolution puffing smoke. I've searched You Tube and came up with 1 decent vid, and ironically enough it's a AML K4 but it's tuned to something like 2 chugs per driver revolution whereas it should be a prototypical 4.
I've heard reports where the smaller 6 - 12 amp Titan won't drive a MTH smoke unit without overheating after a few minutes. The suggested "fix" was to use the bigger 10 - 20 amp Titan! WOW!! A 20 amp driver circuit to operate a smoke unit?
I'm guessing he may have actually talked to someone else or just himself again. Nothing of factual importance other then he hopes he can get something that he preordered to be the first kid on the block. (maybe not even his??)
He was actually asking people to contact dealers and beg for product that he wants.
Shadows of his close personal sidekick that once spoke to Aristo I guess??
Today he seems all better???and his sidekick is back after promising to leave????
He just keeps bashing other manufacturers that want to make products for the rest of us. Too bad there's no active moderation on children there anymore. He needs help. I don't do that.
Not worth discussing further.
refreshing that you can just ignore them.
Yep same old sh*t with him...what I've seen of his latest is he pre-ordered 40 of the USAT Bi-Level autoracks..but the only pic he showed of them was 10 empty boxes. Then again when he has no layout to run them on what do we expect? I don't think he really owns any trains as its all his brothers. Anytime "he" puts on a show his brother gets all the credit.
Mark, Your correct about Bachmann as I forgot that some of their rolling stock can be used as 1:29/ 1:32...heck, Ray has what?? 130 of their coal hoppers? (inside joke..I have over 600 )
Piko is a kind of weird duck as the 2 bay hopper, boxcar, reefer, ore car and caboose that's in the starter sets are made from the old MDC molds which are 1:32. Mainline America located near Gary, Indiana claims to have bought and brought back from Hungary the original MDC molds but now I see MainlineAmerica.com is gone..and how can Piko be using the same molds unless they cut there own which I highly doubt?? I never seen the TEE or the passenger cars that they've recently released so can't comment on those but I did call Piko America once and asked about scale...Lady that answered the phone said "All Piko products are 1:29 scale"...
AML wants Hudson pre-orders with no $$$ down...I find that highly amusing! I'll bet if they changed that to a 1:32 live steam & electric version it'd be here by Christmas 2014
On another forum a so called AML "expert" has recently disclosed to have "insider" info pertaining to AML's production schedule of 1:29 scale products.
Here it goes
First AML stated "No Dreyfuss Hudsons unless more pre-orders made"...What a joke as AML/ Accucrap a year ago promised delivery NOW
Second the GP60 is to arrive this fall?? Another joke as this engine has been promised for what? Over 5 years now??..Sorry but has anybody seen the prototype?? Manufacturers always build a prototype at least a year in advance
Third...A SD9 has been promised for 2015??...LOL as stated above..Where's the prototype
Fourth..A 50' single door Hi-Cube boxcar is supposedly slated for 2015?? That's hilarious as where's the prototype
So what this AML insider "expert" has really posted in nothing more than a bunch of lip service..or a basket full of wishes??
AML/ Accucrap can't even deliver their new code 332 stainless steel track that's been "promised" for over 2 years now let alone something really intricate like new locomotives
Speaking about not delivering the 1:32 Allegheny has been promised for what?? 10 years now??
Accucraft couldn't even make the HAGRS 2011 PS-4750 show cars in time..some took as long as 16 months after the show to ship
Seems to me that 1:29 scale is leading a slow death as there's only what? 2 players in it now??
Looking at Accucraft's latest offerings that have shipped they're all 1:32 scale with new brass passenger cars being offered...someday.
Here's their list for 2014 arrivals and only a single 1:29 scale locomotive, a 0-6-0 with a Vandy tender..the 0-6-0 itself has been released for a few years now.
Ray, Yeah that was pulling 6 on level track. They did better after I pulled 2 lead weights that were hugging the motor, Removing the weights allowed more air in around the motor.
Joe, I don't know the exact ratio as I don't have a motor here infront of me...going by memory from say 5 years ago.
Originally these K4's were made under the Khando badge but shipped in Accucraft boxes. First released was the Pre-War version and interestingly it had no name badge like most Accucraft locos do. When the Post-War version came out a month or so later they were sold under the AML brand and those locos have a Accucraft badge on the bottom with a serial number.
I called Accucraft and got Khando's Las Vegas phone number then called to explain the overheating problem to the owner. I was told that I was expecting that loco to do way too much pulling 6 heavyweights and to lighten the load
Over the years I've had 4 of these and I know where 3 are..the 4th one got sold on eBay years ago. Just like any other Accucraft loco all 4 of these had problems out of the box from binds and clunks in the motion to shorts in the wheels. I had one that had the gearbox on the drivers installed backwards.
The original St. Aubins price was $1,399.99 in the spring of 2007. After less than a year St. Aubin's bought all the remaining stock of K4's from Accucraft...something like 65 of each and ended up blowing them out @ $649.99 each
It's not just a swap the motor out "fix" as it uses a Pittman motor with a integral gearcase. If I remember right the stock ratio is like 11.5:1 which is too high but it will go over 100 smph. It needs something like a 1:18.1 ratio gearbox but finding the exact fit maybe a challenge. The way they come stock if you pull say 6 Aristo heavyweights the motor will overheat in about 20 minutes and the thing stops. Double headed will run all day
Here's a few pics of the motor/ gearcase and it's not an easy find...
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Quite a bit a difference if you ask me as VS states in their first line that they own the intellectual property rights...period.
Boy, I communicate quite frequently with the UK Master Modeler Rob Fern, the fellow that built those KM ML4000's & the Baldwin Sharknose engines in 1/29 scale and he was saying how he has his engines cast in resin..and they don't use either a pressure or vacumn chamber..they just pour it in and poke around with a piece of tubing or a brass rod to release any air that's trapped. His engine shells come out pretty dang good. His shells are thick though..like 1/4" to 3/8" in spots with a few bulkeads inside it to help with shell integrity.
Bad thing about making your own is you know where every little fault is but look over one of the manufacturers products and they're loaded with faults too. That all goes away when our trains are ziping around the tracks!
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QSI Titan Decoders...Do They Work?
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The G Gauge smokers are around 4 ohm...maybe 4.6 max. I'll bet that it's too much of a load for the QSI electronics which means they're not as efficient as the MTH PS2 boards are. 6 amps draw for smoke...WOW!!