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  1. *Updated 2/11/23* To help eliminate shipping damage on your G scale steam engines I wanted to create a dedicated post to shipping precautions and suggestions. (These recommendations are for steam only, as diesels (for the most part) don't have the frequency of issues with shipping) There is a number of suggestions for various steam locomotives below. Suggestions: The safest way to ship used to be via USPS Priority Mail w/Special-Handling-Fragile Service https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Special-Handling-Fragile (which added $12.15 to shipping cost) but this service has been DISCONTINUED. If you sent via USPS w/Special-Handling Fragile Service, you could avoid having to double boxing your engine, however with that service no longer available, you will need to double box a number of engines to ensure safe shipping.. Next best choice after USPS Special Handling is now either UPS/FedEx via Air freight Avoid UPS Ground! UPS Ground has a long history of destroying G scale models (particularly steam) and some time ago MTH switched from UPS Ground to FedEx Ground for all the shipping because of the frequency and extent of damage to their One Gauge Triplexes. Label the box neatly with Fragile stickers, apply "Do not stand on end" (to protect from pilot damage from severe nose down impacts), and "this side up" labels. Lastly, and most important, if you aren't shipping via USPS Priority Mail w/Special Fragile Handling Service, I strongly recommend to enclose the main box in another that is completely surrounded by 4-6" soft packing material at a minimum. Some engines from USA Trains and Accucraft/AMYL are shipped this way and reduces the instant high G force shock of impacts. MTH started double boxing with later Triplex shipments. Note that USA Steam such as the FEF and the Hudson still see broken bolt-down body posts from severe impacts in shipping. For all MTH engines in factory pre-formed styrafoam packaging, be sure both engine and tender are in the correct direction and both with wheels DOWN into the thinner bottom half of the packaging. Thicker part of packaging is the top. Here is how I recommend boxes be labeled for shipping: (A lot of bright labels so the package screams THIS END UP) Use this image to print on a color printer: Example: MTH Big Boy (2006 version) (Picture 1 of 2) Example: MTH Big Boy (2006 version) (Picture 1 of 2) Example MTH Big Boy 2021/2022: (in dual Uhaul 24"x18"x18" boxes made into one 45"x19"x19") Special notes for specific models: - MTH Big Boy: (One gauge) (**Applies only to model made in 2006**) (**2015/2017/2018 production doesn't have this risk due to new packaging**) 2006 version: (Recommend shipping this 2006 model via USPS/UPS/Fedex Air freight only and MUST be double boxed with sufficient padding) - Risk: Broken die cast metal frames (front & rear) (This risk applies to first production run Big Boys only. Newer engines 70-3026-1 & 70-3027-1 from 2015 Catalog and later have updated stronger frame castings and packaging.) - If you sent via USPS Priority Mail w/Special-Handling Fragile Service, you could probably get away with not double boxing your engine but that service is no longer available. - Otherwise, it is recommended using a 20.5"x20.5"x40+" OR 18"x18"x45" outer box (Office supply stores have telescoping boxes of this size) (Keep the overall length under 46" or FedEx will charge $67.50 oversize charge) - Include plenty of soft packing material on each side and ends inside. - If double boxing isn't possible I strongly recommend removing the front and rear engine sets from the boiler and shipping them in a separate box wrapped with 6-8" of bubble wrap into a large barrel/ball. (Remove the steam feeder pipes that runs from the rear engine set to the front before shipping. Remove this with two screws on top and between the cylinders) 2015/2017/2018 version: - See this link for packaging photos: Big Boy Packaging 2015/2017/2018 - NOTE: It is CRITICAL to use original hardware, bolts, posts in shipping this engine 2020/2022 version: - This version returns to a simplified styrafoam packaging, except they use a wooden block attached to front engine set to help hold engine in place. I recommend only sending this engine via UPS/Fedex via Air Freight. I would avoid sending this via Ground service. Double-boxing as shown above for this model has shown full success in shipping via Ground. - MTH Challenger: (One Gauge) - This engine doesn't normally have issues with shipping damage. You can also ship in the same larger double box like the MTH Big Boy but it shouldn't be necessary. - Avoid adding additional padding in front of the cowcatcher. - MTH GS-2/GS-4: (One gauge) (2006=PS2, 2015/2017=PS3) - Risk: Broken cow-catcher - PS2(2006 version): - Remove the front cow catcher before shipping. Screw the 2 screws back in the holes on the engine so they dont get lost. Include the cowcatcher in one of the isolated open cut-outs in the Styrofoam box if it will fit. If not ship separately. - If you ship this engine with cowcatcher in-place it will get broken. - As added precaution you can cut out larger area in-front and below cowcatcher in lower styrafoam box half - PS3(2015/2017 - In the top front/forward part of the styrafoam box, there is a black pad stuck in-place. This is a pad/spacer for the nose/smokebox/headlights to hit against. If this spacer isn't in place (it can fall out due to bad drying adhesive) it puts engine more at risk of damaging cowcatcher due to being able to slide further forward in the box. - MTH Hudson: (One gauge) (This engine really should be sent double boxed) (Recommend Air Freight only and don't send via Ground service) - Risks: 1) Broken cowcatcher w/Engine & Tender side by side type box 2)Broken front main boiler post 3) Broken front pilot 4 wheel truck post - 1) Broken cowcatcher: If you have box where engine and tender are boxed side by side (not end to end) there is a risk of cowcatcher being damaged. Option 1: Remove the front cow catcher before shipping. Screw the 2 screws back in the holes on the engine so they don't get lost. - Either keep the cowcatcher or ship the cowcatcher separately if you cant fit it in an isolated open cut-out. - Remove the front pilot truck from the engine and either keep or ship separately. Do not ship with just rear connection bolted to the frame. Option 2: Cut-out additional Styrofoam from in-front and under cowcatcher to ensure it does not make contact. **In either case DO NOT add padding or anything in-front of the cowcatcher where pressure would be put against it** The boiler front is what holds the engine in place. - 2) Broken front main boiler post The only way to avoid this damage is to ship via USPS Priority Mail w/Special Fragile Handling Service. If you ship via any other carriers you must double-box. - 3) Broken front pilot 4 wheel truck post (rear post) Recommend removing the 4 wheel truck completely from the engine and either shipping separately or keeping with you if sending engine for repair. - Note: If you ship via USPS Priority Mail w/Special Fragile Handling Service, you shouldn't need to double-box. Other carriers, yes consider double boxing. If you have box where tender is behind engine, obtain a U-Haul 15"x15"x48" box and fill with packing peanuts or other good padding. MTH factory Box: (Tender behind engine [end-to-end] version) U-haul 15"x15"x48 (Larger U-Haul box for factory engine behind tender version of MTH Hudson box) - MTH Triplex: (One gauge) (Recommend double boxing this engine) - Risk: Broken smokebox door/headlight / Boiler tabs that connect to frame - Follow all packing instructions as noted in the special packaging guide provided by MTH: 2-8-8-2_Triplex_Packing_Instructions.pdf - Additional packing photos/info/precautions: http://www.rayman4449.com/MTH_Triplex-Shipping.htm - For all engines (New in the box or already unpackaged): Front headlight: Cut-out/remove additional foam from around the front headlight. (Cut-out from above, in front and below the headlight). Make sure you have plenty of space. This ensures the headlight will not be broken off in a severe impact. - Tender steps: - Cut notches in the metal shipping base to allow proper clearance and avoid damage in shipping - Consider using a 20.5"x20.5"x40+" outer box (Office supply stores have telescoping boxes of this size) - 4-6" of soft packing material on each side of the box. - USA Trains Hudson / Big Boy: (1:29 G scale) (Recommend shipping USA Hudson only via UPS/FedEx Air Freight ) - Risk: Die cast metal hold down posts for the main bolts can break off. (Post off USA Trains Hudson pictured) - Use This End Up stickers all the way around - Use additional packing material around the wooden box inside the shipping box if there isn't any. (USA Trains supplies it with original box but sometimes they get removed later by owners) - USA Trains is currently out of stock on the replacement die cast frames for the Hudson (when I checked on 11/22/2016) likely due to this very issue. Additional replacements will be pending future production run. - USA Trains Big Boy: Be careful in handling the engine when on the earlier production run platforms as they can split down the middle requiring significant work to repair. Most current production Big Boys have updated thicker platform made out of stronger material to avoid this issue. Example: USA Trains Big Boy wooden platform with bolts and brackets to repair split down the middle in one of the wheel grooves: http://www.rayman4449.com/USA_Big_Boy_062607_1024_0047.JPG New version: (thicker and different material that shouldn't split) Final Comments: My suggestion is if you have ANY G scale or One gauge steam engine (MTH or otherwise) (that does not normally have a secondary outer foam packing), make sure you double box your engine with a secondary box completely surrounded by packing peanuts, soft sheet foam(soft foam NOT Styrofoam), etc. (I would suggest 4-6" of soft packing material on all sides at a minimum!) Engines that don't have die cast metal frames may be less subject to shipping damage but they are not immune. I've seen shipping damage on other G scale models (not just the Big Boy, not just MTH models) so this suggestion applies to ALL G scale steam! Also DO NOT put additional padding in front of the cowcatcher, they are not designed to take the full weight of the engine, it is the main boiler itself that does. The biggest reason this is so important is because of the current state of model production in this scale (Accucraft, USA Trains, MTH, etc) once a production run of engines is made it could be some time before the next run is made of that particular model and the number of replacement parts is finite. We really need to do all we can to ensure that our engines are not lost because of needless shipping damage and unavailability of parts. Trust me it's worth the time and extra cost & effort. Raymond
  2. Photos of the MTH Big Boy in 1:32 scale. These are probably my most favorite engines to run in my collection. For more info see the following pages: Additional Photos and Product information page: http://www.rayman4449.com/MTH_Big_Boy.htm Repairs/Modifications page: http://www.rayman4449.com/MTH_Big_Boy_mods.htm These pages are accessible off my home page at: www.rayman4449.com (Click the photo to enlarge) NEW PHOTOS (09/27/2014)
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