Rayman4449 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Just saw an announcement that the ATSF version of the Aristocraft Heavyweight is back in-stock with a listed price of $1500 per set of 4 ($375 per car) http://polksgenerationext.com/product/std-heavyweight-set-atsf/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Miller Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 they are $999.99 at trainworld. 1500 is list price....................Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoles Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 RLD is less than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benshell Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 That's pricey! I want a passenger train though. I keep putting it off, and it keeps getting more expensive AND more difficult to find. I've thought about getting Aristo-Craft heavyweights, but the only factory paint scheme I'm interested in is UP, and they don't seem to making them anymore. If I could find cheap enough used cars I'd like to repaint in SP Olive Green, but with zero experience painting cars I'm definitely not going to touch brand new cars for over $300/each. One of the deals I regret not buying was around 2010 when I had a chance to buy about five heavyweights in bad condition for $150 total. They had broken, missing, or rusty trucks, faded paint, and some broken pieces, but would have been perfect for repainting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman4449 Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 I'm glad I bought my heavyweights back when I did that is for sure. I'm with you too, I have so far kept away from painting en-mass. Would need a paint booth to do a series of cars and even then time consuming and costly depending on what paint you choose to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B44 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 A guy in Australia has been trying to sell this UP set for awhile. Over on the Facebook G Scale sale forum: https://www.facebook.com/groups/437493469620109/ I know, shipping..... Had not noticed the price either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg1 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 That guy from Australia is also on Ebay. I think that at almost $2600 with shipping that he is going to have them for awhile, lol. RLD Hobbies has a good price on Pennsy sets for under $800. The Aristo Heavyweights are a good-looking car and always sold well. Aristocraft produced many heavyweight runs with each run better than the previous run it replaced. Maybe we will see some future runs that will include UP sets with Polk's Generation Next ?? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 It would be nice if Polks would start making more sets but IMHO they should re-work the molds as they're getting wore out. I've had at least 6 sets thru here over the years and they drive me crazy! Doors lean one direction while the steps lean another. The ends don't match up to the roof very well and the constant lighting problems such as wires breaking away from the trucks. Some cars I couldn't get roof off of as it was glued on by the factory because the center roof tangs didn't match up with the notches so it was glued! Last set I had was brand new Milwaukee Road in the blue/ grey boxes...the old original run. What a mess as those things didn't even have the holes in the bottom for a screwdriver to access the roof screws??!! Had to work those screws thru the side door! That and the old metal wheels that were one piece cast with the axle then joined to the opposite axle with a plastic sleeve just really suck as all they do is wobble...Thanks but no thanks with those cars! All bitching aside I did have a set of 13 NYC 2-tone Grey heavyweights that I installed LED lighting in all cars and something like 30 - 40 people in each car...pretty nice!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg1 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Didn't know that problems with the bodies were starting to emerge. With as many heavyweight cars that Aristo produced over the years I guess it makes sense that those molds are getting wore out. I did know about the glued roofs. They did however make improvements in the performance of those cars in subsequent years. I think that if Generation Next wants to re-establish the Aristo line the best thing they could possibly do is correct any and all problems that they know exists with the former Aristo line. It's amazing that once you establish a reputation of quality, quality control, and good customer service the flexibility that gives a company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoles Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I was in Nicholas Smith's Trains in Broomall, PA, and he had a 4 car UP set of heavyweights for $789. Looks like he still has it in stock as of 12-15-2014: http://www.nicholassmithtrains.com/store/product/42235/ART-UP-4-CAR-SET/ From experience, I think the newest run of heavyweights are a lot better than the previous run. The lighting circuit and the inclusion of the MU plugs is what, in my opinion, makes the latest release that much better. Painting these cars is not really that bad. The roof comes off with 4 screws. The trucks are a little trickier due to the wiring (and version you start with). I used blue painters tape to mask the windows, and it was really pretty simple. Then, spray. On the last car I painted, in 2011, I even removed all the brass pieces and painted those separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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